All My Children Wear Fur Coats with Peggy Hoyt

Two Crazy Cat Ladies - Jae Kennedy & Adrienne Lefebvre

May 02, 2023 Jae Kennedy & Adrienne Lefebvre Episode 13
All My Children Wear Fur Coats with Peggy Hoyt
Two Crazy Cat Ladies - Jae Kennedy & Adrienne Lefebvre
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This week on All My Children Wear Fur Coats, we had the pleasure of speaking with Jae and Adrienne, the owners of Two Crazy Cat Ladies. Jae and Adrienne own Two Crazy Cat Ladies, a brand created to bring cat parents together and raise awareness about the health and well-being of all kitties. 

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And today we have the pleasure of

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And they are, and we're excited.

Hello, ladies. Hello. Hello.

Thank you so much for having us.

We're excited to be here.

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So I want to know, how do you

go about becoming the Two Crazy Cat Ladies? Funny.


Yeah, kind of.

So, honestly, we have always

considered ourselves dog people.

And it was just by chance that

these cats just kept finding us.

So it was on the side of the road or a river bank. Yeah.

So, of course, we had to rescue them, bring them in.

We've still yet to this day, ever been to actually set out

to adopt or go to a shelter to adopt a cat.

However, we have been in nutrition

and pet nutrition since 2005.

And after ten years in the pet nutrition

industry, we realized that it's very dog centric

and there wasn't a lot of resources out

there for all these cats that we've accumulated.

And so in 2015, we branched off and

became the Two Crazy Cat Ladies to basically

be that resource that we couldn't find.

Well, yeah, I think we had five our OGS,

our babies at the time, our boys and mama.

We had one little girl.

They really did our best teachers. Right?

They're our best teachers.

And realizing when a health issue would come

up or when they were dealing with something,

it was so hard to find resources.

So it's really just been a nonstop passion for us.

And it's incredible to be a part of the

cat community, and it's just a big, beautiful family.

Yeah, I feel like it's really growing now, too.

I think finally people are going,

oh, cats are people, too. Yes.

As you know, I have two cats, and I've

had as many as six cats at one time.

So I do not have a bias against cats or dogs.

I like them equally as well and would have way more than

I have if I didn't have a husband who says no more.

Although there is a funny joke.

I usually say when people say,

Why do you have six dogs?

I say, Because my husband won't let me have ten.

I like that. Yeah.

So I would have a lot more dogs,

a lot more cats, a lot more horses.

So I completely understand that it's important to have

resources, and I'm glad you guys are out there

being advocates as cat advocates, social media influencers, bloggers,

content creators, and also offering a full line of

natural supplements for our feline friends. Yes.

We had no idea our cats would keep us so busy.

Well, isn't that great, though?

You get to combine your passion with your profession.

It's a dream.

Yeah, seriously.

And that's kind of what's fun for me,

too, because I get to meet really great

people like yourselves by doing the podcast.

I get to meet a lot of really great pet lovers because

of people that come to me to plan for their pets.

I actually have a client right now that has 56 cats.



So we're doing a really cool

pet trust to provide for them.

And you guys would probably be best friends with them.

Probably. Very likely.

We know a few. It's true. Yeah.

I think the record that we

know personally is Vicky at 62.

Oh, 62, okay. Yeah.

I don't know if she does right

now, but maybe you're doing Vicky's.

Maybe you need to talk to somebody. Right.

So when did you start doing your podcast?

See, our podcast came in 2019, I think, so

it came a little bit after we started on

this journey, just kind of understanding the social media.

I call Jay the Gadget Girl because she's great

with buttons and all that kind of stuff.

She can learn a new app in her

sleep, and it's more difficult for me.

So I was, like, just getting my

head wrapped around Facebook and Instagram, and

the podcast thing was like, what?

And then I'm like TikTok and podcast. YouTube.

Yeah, but I mean, I think it's important

if we have any of us, right?

If we have something that's important to tell

and we have to reach the different audiences.

And there are people that prefer I am one of them.

I like to listen to podcasts.

There are other people that prefer to get

their content on social media through videos and

through blogs and things like that.

So we're just trying to be everywhere

so that we can reach the masses.

Yeah, so everybody can find you. Yes.

All right, so you have some really good content on your

blog, and so I want to ask a couple of questions,

things that you posted recently, because I think that maybe people

don't know how curious some cats can be and how that

can end up being deadly for cats.

So you have a post called Seven Deadly Things for Cats.

Talk about that one a little bit. Wow.

So that old cliche of curiosity killed the cat.

It was kind of a play on that.

And also our community reaches out

to us a lot with different

questions and sometimes some terrible heartbreak.

So we just felt that it was important to

kind of put some of that stuff out there.

Whether it is flowers that we bring into the

home, something that's fun or cute to watch them

play with, like a rubber band, leaving wand, toys

out, anything with string can be such tragedy.

If you've got a kitty that is trying to

chew it, right, trying to think of dental floss.

Another thing that people just kind of leave out,

and especially the ones that may have a flavor

to them, cats will just start chewing, chewing on

it, and that can lead to intestinal blockages.

There are a couple of other salt lamps.

That's something that we learned just a few

years ago, that there is a salt toxicity,

that salt poisoning is what they call it.

So, fine, we actually had a salt lamp at the

time, and luckily, none of our cats no, it was

on a bookshelf, and nobody was even interested in it.

But there are cats that if they, you know, if

it's in a place, it's easily accessible to them, and

they go to explore it and they give it a

little lick, they can actually become a little obsessed with

it and can wind up with salt poisoning.

That's incredible, because I would not have thought of that,

but I can see exactly how that could happen.

Yeah, and we never thought of it either.

We learned it, I think, from Dr.

Karen Becker or somewhere.

We learned it online, and we were like, oh, my gosh.

And then we read about it.

We were like, okay, let's move the salt lamps to

the guest room where none of the cats go.

Yeah, because you hear about anaphyze as being

something that cats would lick and die from.

You know, they say that cats are attracted

to it because it has a sweet taste.

And yet cats don't have a sweet taste receptor.

They don't have a sweet taste bud.

So it's actually just more the liquid or the

scent of it that draws them to it.

It's also an awful thing. Yes.

Keep all household cleaners.

I mean, I think that's one of the most tragic things.

You've got cats that like to get into cupboards

and they leave something over or something tips over,

and you've got a potentially heartbreaking situation.

Human medications.

Another thing that we don't think about

or if our cats are outside roundupate.

We've seen so many just instant kidney failure

and death when it comes to that.

Glyphosate getting into maybe some puddle of water that they

want to drink or your neighbors spraying their yard and

it going into a creek that they drink from. Yeah.

It's a really sad thing.

So it's just things that we need

to be aware of as cat parents.

Well, and chocolate.

I mean, we think about that for dogs, but

I wouldn't really have thought about that for cats.

I can't remember what the name of the

ingredient isn't, what it is in chocolate.

Theo bromine. Thank you. Yes.

That it is also something that you don't want.

Most cats aren't attracted to chocolate, but

I do think it's the dark chocolate

you've got to be more concerned about.

There's more in there, and it's less sweet.

So it's fun to let our cats like, oh, my cat wants

my ice cream, my cat wants this, or my cat wants that.

It's important to just kind of

evaluate a cat as a species.

What are the things that are dangerous for them

to kind of like cat proof your home?

When we bring in a bird or a gerbil, we

read all about what does their cage need to be

like and what are their nutritional needs and whatever.

And I think cats are very curious, beautiful creatures,

but there are some things, like the lilies of

the entire lily family is a very dangerous, beautiful

flower that should not be in a cat's home. Yeah.

So be careful around Easter, right? Yes.

That we just came past. Yeah.

Those are a couple of things I wouldn't think of.

Onions as well.

Yes, toxic. Okay.

Good things to know.

So you're right.

We tend to think that cats are really super easy

to take care of, so we don't necessarily think about

all the things that could be dangerous to them.

So let's switch gears a little bit and go from

what's dangerous to what kind of vegetables might cats like?

This is interesting.

Nutritionally, our cats do not

have a requirement for vegetables. Right.

They're obligate carnivores.

It's not something that they need in their diet.

They would get 2% or less, typically in the

wild from the stomach contents of their prey.

So it's not something that is needed, but people tend

to forget that it is something that could be beneficial.

So if your cats do like it, or if

you can add some leafy green vegetables, for instance,

into their food in small amounts, they offer a

lot of antioxidant benefits, a lot of nutritional benefits.

Yeah, but but there are some

that are specifically, like onions.

Very unsafe. Right.

And then there are some that

are nice and good and safe.

And our little Black Panther Friday

is obsessed with green vegetables.

So if I'm making, like, a salad and there's

spinach, she jumps up and grabs it and runs.

If there's lettuce Brussels broccoli

asparagus anything green, she is. Wow.

She just absolutely loves it.

So it's nice to know that it's safe.

And these are things that she can take and eat, self

select, if you will, because maybe her body needs that.

Well, and then don't some people

actually grow greens for cats?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, you think about catnip, right?

Everybody knows about catnip.

And it's a great herb if you will

plant that you can plant for your kitties.

And cat grass.

Wheatgrass is another yeah, a bunch of different

kinds of grasses that you can grow.

Broccoli sprouts are actually on the rise as

far as for people and for cats pets

in general, because they're just so nutritiously dense.


But it's exciting when there

are we're talking about curiosity.

It's very exciting when there are these things that

are potentially wonderful for them, whether it's vegetables or

cat grass, fresh catnip, silver vine, whatever it may

be, to let them explore, bring some enrichment into

their environment and see what it is they really

enjoy exploring that same.

Yeah, absolutely.

Fun for you, too, right?

Because you can figure out some neat things.

Yes, I think I've tried to grow those broccoli greens

before, and you can buy these little kits, and all

you have to do is add water and then just

close your eyes, and they, like, bloom, like, almost overnight.


A little tower.

Yeah, that's really cool.

All right, so now we're keeping our cats super healthy

because we're keeping them away from the bad things.

We're giving them greens, and

we're encouraging good, healthy eating.

How long can our cats live?

Isn't that the most exciting question ever? Yeah.

So the oldest living cat lived to be 38 years

old, according to the Guinness Book of World Record.


And there were actually two that

lived to be 38 years old.

The one that lived to be, like, 38 in

three days or something, she actually ate regular cat

food, but every day was served by her, I

would say servant, probably one of us.

The cat parents broccoli eggs, bacon, turkey bacon,

and offered a little bit of coffee.

I don't recommend coffee. Right.

Because there's no science behind that, necessarily.

But she lived to be 38 years old, and the other one

that lived to be 38 years old also ate table scraps.


Like the food that on a regular

basis that human fresh, human grade food. Yeah.

Oh, that's pretty interesting, actually.

I also feel I mean, we know that the

average statistics are basically a domestic indoor kitty can

live to be 15 to 20 years old. Right.

And we hear a lot of stories of

cats that live to be 22, 23.

It's very exciting.

A long, good life.

But one of the things also, that

these cats that lived so long had

in common was their environmental enrichment.

They were loved, they were

appreciated, they were acknowledged.

The things that they got to express, their

feline instincts, they were really embraced as the

unique species that they are and were given

many outlets for being a cat.

And I think that is also just we spend a lot

of time in nutrition and what we put in our cats,

but it's also what we surround them with is equally important.

Do you know what the breeds were

of those 38 year old cats?

Yeah, cream Puff was a mixed breed. Right.

And then the other short

hair, both domestic short hair.

The other one was a little black panther. Oh.

Because I had a Siamese mix that lived to be 21.

That's the oldest cat I've had.

Yeah, we had one that lived he was a month away from

being turning 22, and he was just oh, gray and white.

Gray and white.

So kind of like people some of us live

a long time and some of us don't. That's true. Yeah.

Maybe based on our habits. Right? Yes.


It was funny because I adopted this cat when I was

in college, and so 21 years later, I still had him.

And so for a long time, I would

always say he was my longest running relationship.


Scotch was our little boy Scotch.

Named after the Scotch tape, not the drink.

I didn't even know. Okay. Yeah.

But he had those tiny little kitten pots.

We found him in a parking lot

abandoned with a couple of other kitties.

He had these tiny little kitten claws, and

he would just stick to my shirt.

So that's his name.

That was a great way to get his name.

I love that.

All right, so now we're talking about old cats.

Do cats get dementia like old people?

They do now.

I don't think that they actually call it

they call it more like cognitive decline.

I don't think the medical field in the pet world has

classified it as an actual or diagnosis, or they don't have

a way to correctly diagnose it, but yes, they do.

They can experience the same type of symptoms

that humans do as far as cognitive decline.

And then you see things like, one of our

older guys just started howling at night, and we

were like, what is wrong with him?

And we would get up in the middle

of the night, and he just looked confused.

He was just like, Where am I? And where am I?

Supposed to be.

And as soon as he saw us, he

would be like, oh, okay, we're fine.

But I think that dementia, the

kitty dementia, Alzheimer's, it's more of

a diagnosis by process of elimination.

I think it's so important to remind everybody when

we do see a sudden change or they're doing

something that's just a little not normal.

We really especially with our older kitties, we brought

our boys in twice a year for blood work,

the thyroid, the whole the senior blood panels.

We really kept kind of the journal of

making sure that their energy and their appetite

and their eliminations were all normal.

If we saw it change any of those

things, we want to get them checked out.

So I think with our older ones, it's more like

a diagnosis of elimination and really realizing that and there

are certain things that you want to be considered about

too, once you realize that that's kind of what's going

on, you can offer more reassurance or be there for

them a little bit more.

Well, I've been really lucky.

I think most of my cats have been, like, super healthy.

I mean, I have not really ever had any cat issues.

I have a kitty right now.

Well, Forest is coughing quite a bit,

so I need to figure that out.

Yeah, that visit is always good

if you're seeing consistent coughing.

And I give him cough syrup for cats, and it's pretty

funny because now he asks for it twice a day because

he knows he gets a little special treat afterward.

I think he really wants the treat, but he

knows he has to do the cough medicine first.

Does he know he has to do the coughing too, because he's

seen that video of the cat that always acts like it has

a limp just to get let that maybe he's faking?

No, I would be surprised if he was faking.

All right, so while we're on the issue of cat

health and older cats, let's talk about their water intake.

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To get started today, we did have a guest on

the show recently, and they were talking about a product

called KittyRade to try to get cats to drink

more if they weren't necessarily drinking enough.

So tell us about that.

How can we tell if our cats

drinking too little or too much water?

So this is a good question.

We're more into the holistic perspective.

There is water fountains and certain things that you

can add to the water that are safe and

healthy, that can encourage a cat to drink.

But cats are desert animals, so they have a low

thirst drive by nature, and they are not able to

make up the amount of water that their bodies need,

moisture that their bodies need at the water bowl.

So what we really need to do is make

sure that we're feeding them a moisture rich diet.

If cats are getting a moisture rich diet, they

actually will drink very little because their bodies are

already getting all of the moisture that it needs

through their food as they would in the wild.

That is interesting.

So you talk about moisture rich.

How do we get moisture into our cat's daily diet?

So we don't recommend feeding a dry food diet, right?

So if we're not feeding a dry food diet, then

we're going to be feeding a moisture rich diet.

So if it's a canned food or wet food, a raw food,

a fresh food, you can also add in more moisture, right.

Even if you are a kibble feeder, a little bit

of bone broth or something like that added into the

food can at least help to increase the hydration or

you can add that or extra water.

We feed a species appropriate, fully

balanced raw diet to our cats.

And so there's plenty of moisture in there, but

we add more moisture back in, mostly because they

like that licking action, but also to ensure that

they get all the moisture that their bodies need.

So is this a diet that you cook

for them or you buy for them?

So currently we buy it from a local

supplier that's a local pet food company that

makes it fresh every two weeks.

That's their primary diet?

Yeah, that's their primary diet.

We do have some recipes on YouTube of how to make

it at home because we realize that it can be somewhat

expensive to purchase, especially if you have a lot of cats.

It can be pretty expensive in comparison

to just buying a kibble diet.

And so there are ways that you can make it at home

or just add in a little bit of fresh food to the

bowl and offer your cats just a little bit higher quality, right?

Yeah, I like that idea.

I mean, I don't cook for me,

but maybe I'll cook for my cats.

Cats meals than we do our own.

Yeah, it's amazing what we'll do for them

that we won't do for ourselves, right? Yes.

All right, so we can't talk about

cats without talking about litter boxes.

Oh, girl, my favorite.

All right, so to enclose or not to enclose?

That's such a good question. Such a great question.

And as always, our cats are our best teachers.

I would say in our home we have one closed litter box.

And by litter box, I do mean that this is

a very large storage tote, so it is big enough

for them to walk in, move around, do their thing,

and that box is getting a lot of traffic.

Now, our other litter boxes are

all open, they're actually clear.

So we've learned from behaviorists how most cats

most cats prefer an open litter box because

bathroom time is a vulnerable time for them.

Instinctively, they are feeling like they

have to do their business.

They want to be able to make

sure no one's creeping up on them.

Much like us humans, I think, actually. Right.

So most of our other litter boxes are

90 quart storage totes that are open and

they're clear so that they can see around.

But it's been fascinating after adding this newest

one, the closed box, to see that it

is getting quite a bit of traffic.

So when it comes to open or closed, in

my opinion, it's giving our cats the option to

see what it is that they prefer.

Every cat is an individual.

And I think, keeping in mind that we want

those litter boxes and easily accessible low traffic areas,

a place that's convenient for them, not necessarily for

us, not next to the dryer where it's something

stumping around in there half the time then to

give them that option of open or closed is

a fascinating insight into their personality.

So you mentioned you use like totes

and you said 90 quart tote.

So the one that's closed, you just have the lid on

it and you have a cut out in the top.

The cutout is on the side.

Oh, on the side, okay.

So it's like at the front, they just walk in.

We just use a heat gun and a box

cutter and cut out a little entrance for them.

Make the lip a good three or four inches so

that they're not kicking letter out all the time.

Yeah, because that's always a thing. Right?

That is always a thing.

So they have some really wild new

fangled self cleaning kitty boxes, but I

don't have any experience with those myself.

What about you?

We have a little bit of experience, personal experience,

and our cats rejected them and one of them

started going outside every box because he got scared

of the one when it started going off.

So again, keeping your cats in mind, we're

not a fan of automatic litter boxes.

One, for the fact that it can just freak

them out and then cause them not to want

to use the litter box at all.

But two, we really like to

keep an eye on their eliminations.

Yeah, we want to make sure the deposits are it's.

One of those ways that we can make sure that

our cats are healthy is by paying attention to their

litter box habits and their deposits in the litter box.

And so when it's all just scooped away without

us being able to check on it ourselves, then

it can be difficult to do that.

So have you ever used any of those litters that

turn colors if there's an issue with their urine.

We have not.

We reached out to one of those companies that

most well known company that does that, right?

And we asked them because everyone was coming to

us, it was becoming a very popular before it

sold to Mars, it was becoming really popular.

So we reached out to them. We were like, I don't know if

we can recommend this or not.

First of all, it'silica those are silica based.

If ingested and your cats are going to ingest

a certain amount of litter that they use.

So if it's ingested, especially too much

ingested, it can be very toxic.

So silica is a no for us.

It's not super scary or harmful in all cases, but

for us, we keep it out of the house.

But two, they're unable to tell us what type

of chemicals they use in order to make that.

I mean, it's a fantastic concept, right?

It's absolutely like a brilliant concept.

But if we're creating more issues and we don't know

if we would be or not, but if we're creating

more issues with extra chemicals that we're exposing them to,

then we wouldn't want to go for that.

I think one of the little known cat

fact that I find super fascinating is that

a cat's pop hats are super vascular.

So anything it's not just the litter that they

use or that them licking stuff off their paws,

it's also that they absorb things through their paws

and all that right into their bloodstream.

So I think that's just a concern.

I mean, I know that anything that we put in or on

our little ones, we want to know a bit more about it.

So it could very well be that it's completely safe,

but not knowing what it is or how it works

made our natural litter the option for our babies.

They don't get pretty changing colors. Right?

Okay, well, that was a great answer to that question.

So I use just like horse bedding pine.

Pine pellets?

Yeah, because it's easy and it

doesn't smell bad and it's cheap.

But then there's that side of

me that you mentioned, like ingesting.

Have you ever seen a cat eat litter? Yes.

Now, with the pine pellets, though, what we like about

that and we use those too, we have a couple

of different types that we're using, but the pine pellets,

they're less likely to get stuck into their paws.

There's virtually no dust, right?

What does it disintegrate?

It turns into like almost like a little

bit of a dust that they will ingest.

But it's perfectly safe. Right.

It's not a bunch of chemicals and things like that.

It's just kiln dried, but it's very little.

When it comes to pellets in general, it's very little

tracking and very little issues other than in our home.

Our girls don't like the feel of

the pine pellets on their pop hats.

That's when we have to try to

find different types of natural litter.

And they all track more than the pine pellets. Right?

The pine pellets are still my favorite.

Yeah, I didn't know.

One of my friends actually turned me onto that finally.

And I was like, wow.

And I shop at the horse store all the time. Yeah.

So inexpensive too, right? Oh, yeah.

Compared to regular litter.

Yeah, I ran out and I had to buy regular litter and

I was like, oh my God, I don't even know if my

cats will use this now because in fact, Jenny may have never

used anything but pine pellets in her whole lifetime.

So hard to know. Yeah. Okay.

That was a really cool conversation,

actually, about kitty bathroom habits.

Oh, one of our favorite topics.

Yeah, we talk a lot about it.

So we had a cat once upon a time growing up.

That number one.

We don't think she was altogether right.

She might have been a little on the

autistic spectrum or some other scale, but not

the brightest bulb in the box.

And she would go to the bathroom, pee

in the most unusual places, the element on

the kitchen stove, in the toaster.


Like she would have this

weird attraction to electrical elements.

Have you ever heard of that? Yes.

Now, in order to stop this, I would say like

a cat behaviorist, like actually meeting with a feline behaviorist

would be what we would recommend if somebody came to

us and said, what do I do about this?

But one of our girls has done

that as well and she's super bright.

She's super bright. Yeah.

It used to be the dish rack all of

a sudden, and then it was the stove.

And what we found in our specific

situation, consulting with feline behaviorists, is that

there was a cat outside.

So all of the areas like the toaster,

those things, they were all in the kitchen.

And we have a bay window in our kitchen

and there was a cat outside that was coming

at night when we wouldn't see the cat.

So we didn't know that there was a cat outside.

And the cat would come and she would get not defensive.


It territorial. Right.

And so she felt like she needed to mark these areas

in the kitchen so that this outside cat wouldn't come in.

Come in. Okay. Yeah.

So you mentioned animal behaviorist.

So we've talked to several on the

show over time and also animal communicators. Yes.

We're kind of new to we call the world

of animal communicators, the world of woo woo.

Because when one of our babies passed, someone

gifted us with an animal communication session.

And it was our first experience.

It was our first experience.

But since then, we now work, have

colleagues and speak daily with animal communicators.

And we've actually had several podcasts, actually, with

a couple of animal communicators from the Animal

Communication Collective and they just did a reading

for the new kitten that we found live

on social media, which was a huge hit.

Everybody wanted to see that because everybody saw

that we just found this kitten after we

lost two of our other kitties.

And it's quite amazing.

The world of woo woo is quite amazing. Yeah.

So sometimes we just have to open

our mind a little bit, right? Yes.

Because you never know the answers

that might be out there. Exactly.

All right, so what would you leave us with today?

Because this is so fun.

We want people to go check out your blog and

check out your podcast, and they can find you easily

on social media, but also add to Yes. Yeah.

Come be part of the community.

I think one of the things that we're just

so grateful for is this community of people.

And our motto is learn, share, grow.

And we do that every day with the community.

We learn from each other people.

I love how supportive the

people are on different platforms.

On all the platforms, if someone asks a question and we

haven't gotten to them, someone else will pop in and say,

hey, well, I tried this, and this works for me.

We've gone through a lot of loss with our community recently,

but I also feel like what a gift it is to

actually be able to share such a significant thing with people

that really do understand and it's ever growing.

The cat community is so it's like all

of us are coming out of the closet.

There's so many resources. Yeah.

And everybody's, like, happy all of a sudden to be able

to be a part of a community of like minded people.

And it's admit that we own multiple cats. Yes.

And that we really aren't crazy, but

we like to still think we are.

Yeah, a little bit.

We'll own the term crazy. Oh, yeah. I know.

I always say I'm the crazy pet lady, so it's okay.

I don't limit myself just to cats. Right.

You've got a couple of bases covered over there.

And of course, some of my friends, they jokingly

call me Hoarder because I have so many.

But that's okay, too.

That's fine.

I don't mind. Bring them on.

Bring me more.

It's okay.

So my personal motto is, until

there are none, please adopt one. Yes.

Or find one in the street. Right? Yes. Beautiful.

But don't buy one. No.

We're often asked, what's our favorite breed of cat?

Really? Ask you?

It's funny, I was just thinking this the other day.

People come to us because they're like,

you guys know so much about cats.

You guys know everything about cats. And we don't.

We're always learning, but when it comes to breeds,

we don't really even know breeds very well.

There's some that we've learned along the

way, but we don't even really know.

It's just cute.

I like cute cats, and they're

all cute, which is all cute.

That's exactly right.

All right, thank you so much for joining us.

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